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Barack Oba­ma and Bruce Spring­steen are mak­ing a podcast.

Spo­ti­fy on Mon­day announced the launch of ” Rene­gades: Born in the USA,” fea­tur­ing the for­mer pres­i­dent and the leg­endary rock star in con­ver­sa­tion on issues rang­ing from pol­i­tics and the state of Amer­i­ca to father­hood, mar­riage and man­hood. The con­ver­sa­tions will span eight episodes, the first two of which go live on Monday.